CAConrad Interview: Poetry as a Performance

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MACRO — Museum of Contemporary Art of Rome

2020 – 2024

CAConrad Interview: Poetry as a Performance

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CAConrad has been working with the ancient technologies of poetry and ritual since 1975. From 11 to 16 December 2021, they turn Cut a Door in the Wolf, Jason Dodge’s exhibition at MACRO, into a space of creative rituals. They were made to help us see the creative viability in everything around us.

In this interview CAConrad talks about how performing a poem is an important way to understand, internalize and experience it.

Credits: Louisiana Museum of Modern Art

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1. Audio excerpts from Gianni Barcelloni’s video from the series Il navigatore. Ritratti di scrittori, 2006

2. Patrizia Cavalli, Isabella Ducrot dice di sé stessa, in Isabella Ducrot, Opere 1982-1985, exhibition catalog, Libreria Galleria Giulia, Rome 1985.

3. Patrizia Cavalli, Dietro non c’è niente, in Frida Kahlo curated by Achille Bonito Oliva, Silvana Editoriale, 2004

4. Patrizia Cavalli, L’intenzione e il caso, text written on the occasion of the exhibition I miei splendidi giorni tutti uguali, Studio Stefania Miscetti, Rome, 2011.

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1. Alessandro Barbero, La verità sulle Foibe, 2021

2. Lorenzo Filipaz, Foibe o Esodo? «Frequently Asked Questions» per il Giorno del Ricordo, pubblicato su wumingfoundation.com, 2015.

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1. Pascal Quignard, BUTE, 2008

2. Marius Schneider, La musica primitiva, 1960

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1. We are witnessing a crime against humanity, article by Arundhati Roy, The Guardian, 28 April 2021.

2. Tropical Parula, Indaiatuba, São Paulo, Brazil

3. Self Portrait, poem by David Whyte.

4. Press release of the exhibition SOMETIMES DOING SOMETHING POETIC CAN BECOME POLITICAL AND SOMETIMES DOING SOMETHING POLITICAL CAN BECOME POETIC by artist Francis Alÿs at David Zwirner Gallery, New York, from February 15 to March 17, 2007

5. Sud e Magia, text by Ernesto de Martino, Feltrinelli publicher, Milan 1982

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This Dispatch is dedicated entirely to Salvo.

In this episode:

1. Franco Battiato, Di passaggio, from L’imboscata, PolyGram, 1996

2. Salvo, 40 nomi, Gravestone, 47,24 x 18,11 in, Private collection, 1971

3. Salvo, Io sono Salvo, in Salvo – Sette incisioni e sette poesie, Marco Noire edition, 1983

4. Gian Marco Montesano, …Il catalogo è questo! (Aria del catalogo), in Salvo-Landscapes, Trento, Studio d’Arte Raffaelli, 2000

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Giulia Crispiani reads Monsone Perpetuo, 2018

Sound by Federico Antonini

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In this episode:

1. Intro

2. Nicola Pecoraro, Respire L’infinir, 2020 (excerpt)

3. Interlude 1

4. Edited posts from the electronic music forum on www.gearslutz.com

5. Interlude 2

6. Introduction chapter from The Last Man, by Mary W. Shelley, 1826 (part 1)

7. Interlude 3

8. Introduction chapter from The Last Man, by Mary W. Shelley, 1826 (part 2)

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1. Randy Kennedy, Language as Sculpture, Words as Clay on New York Times

2. Leonard Cohen, First of all, from The Book of Longing

3. Brown Thornbill, Ambleside, Devonport, Tasmania, Australia

4. Etel Adnan, taken from The cost for love we are not willing to pay

5. John Cage, In love with another sound

6. Press Release Lo Savio, la Galleria D’arte Selecta, Rome, 1960

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This podcast was made during Pauline Julier’s residency at the Swiss Institute of Rome, in occasion of the evening Event Horizon — Là où commence le ciel conceived with Filipa Ramos (September 2002).

Sources are, by order of appearance:

1. Anne Carson, Lecture on the History of Skywritings, © The Louisiana Channel, Louisiana

Museum of Modern Art, 2019

2. Forensic Architecture, Cloud Studies, 2020

3. Quinn Latimer, Dear Drone, Letter in response to Pauline’s video, 2020

4. Vinciane Despret in conversation with Filipa Ramos, 2020

5. Michelangelo Antonioni, Au-delà des nuages in Rien que des mensonges, 1991

6. Helmut Völter, The Movement of Clouds Around Mount Fuji, Photographed and Filmed by

Masanao Abe, 2016

Produced by the Swiss Institute of Rome, in collaboration with MACRO, Rome.

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4. Emanuele Coccia, extract from Astrologia del Futuro, Flash Art

5. 99chants, chant#1: DAVID AUGUST — DCXXXIX A.C.

6. Press release of the exhibition Under the Sun, by Lawrence Weiner, in 2009 at Espai d’Art Contemporani Castelló

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3. James Lee Byars, Text of The Hundred One Page Stone Books

4. Arvo Part, Salve Regina, 2006

5. Press release announcing the Robert Morris exhibition at the Tate Gallery, scheduled 28 April — 6 June 1971

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4. Giacinto Scelsi, Chukrum

5. Press Release of the exhibition The Clock, Christian Marclay

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4. Sabbie Vergini, Albergo Intergallatico Spaziale

5. Press Release of the seminal exhibition Information, which took place at the MoMA in 1970

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1. Timothy Morton, Thank Virus for Symbiosis, from The Corona Essays

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